Re: [dvd-discuss] RIAA Subpoena Process-Flaws

[Jack Oskay <joskay(at)ix.netcom.com>]

Hi
Good point.  Another to add is that multiple systems can appear to the 
outside world as using the same IP address.  So multiple systems to a 
router(firewall) will have unique but to the ISP is only one IP which they 
usually translate (to another IP) to the Internet(can be several variations 
here).  Add in one of the systems through all the segments has the time off 
on it.
If it was as simple as this IP did something, then I could make a filter 
that would stop all spam sites while allowing valid email to go through 
even if they where using the same ISP as valid sites.
Thank you and please excuse me if I am being redundant.
At 06:49 PM 10/8/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>The thought occurred to me that if the RIAA is basing their subpoena 
>process on
>the time stamped DNS IP addresses, there might be a problem with 
>that....whose
>time?
>
>The RIAA has their time. The ISP has theirs. The user has theirs. In a DNS
>environment RIAA can say to the ISP give me the name of this user who had IP
>address WWWW.XXXX.YYYY.ZZZZ at time 123456.67543 (THEIR clock) the ISP 
>gives it
>at THEIR clock. IF the RIAA got the time from the user that's the USER'S 
>CLOCK.
>They can be off quite a bit of established time....but wait their's more.
>
>If RIAA get's the IP address just before an IP address is given up and 
>that is
>reallocated immediately then if RIAAs and the ISP's clocks do not agree then
>will get the wrong name for the user.
>
>So the issue becomes how does RIAA get their subpoena info? That might be 
>worth
>investigating.