RE: [dvd-discuss] [OT] Money-where-your-mouth-is department

[Richard Hartman <hartman(at)onetouch.com>]

Unfortunately "simple" frequently isn't, under the law.
They probably _thought_ that what they had said was
sufficient.

Either that or it's a manifesto thing -- in order to
stress the importance of un-copy-protected distribution
they took an extreme position on this one item so that
it would be given wide distribution.


-- 
-Richard M. Hartman
hartman@onetouch.com

186,000 mi/sec: not just a good idea, it's the LAW!



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Stratton [mailto:cpt@gryphon.auspice.net]
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:18 PM
> To: dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu
> Subject: Re: [dvd-discuss] [OT] Money-where-your-mouth-is department
> 
> 
> Then they should have said "The contents of this CD may be copied and 
> shared, but not sold during the relevant copyright terms." I mean, I 
> appreciate the thought, but it doesn't excuse poor drafting 
> for such a 
> very simple thing.
> 
> On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Eric Seppanen wrote:
> 
> > I would guess that they mean "don't start selling copies", 
> not "don't 
> > sell this CD".  These are the good guys, we owe them the 
> benefit of the 
> > doubt.
> > 
> > But hey, don't take my word for it; go download some books yourself:
> > 
> > http://www.baen.com/library/
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:36:05PM -0400, Joshua Stratton wrote:
> > > Nevertheless, I don't care for the imposition on the 
> first-sale rights of 
> > > the CD. It's great that noncommercial copying and sharing 
> is permitted, 
> > > but you might like to resell the original CD sometime, 
> even if you cannot 
> > > resell the copies from it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 10 Oct 2002, D. C. Sessions wrote:
> > > 
> > > > This week I picked up a copy of David Weber's new Honor 
> Harrington
> > > > story, _War_of_Honor_.  In the back there's this CD from Baen
> > > > Books.  On examination, it contains 38 plain-HTML 
> books, including
> > > > all of the other books in the Honor Harrington univers, 
> plus filk,
> > > > artwork, supplemental material, etc.
> > > > 
> > > > The T&C?  As printed on the CD, "This disk and its contents may
> > > > be copied and shared but NOT sold."
> > > > 
> > > > That's it.  *Thirty-eight* freaking full books, including best
> > > > sellers, all in plain file formats with no monkey business,
> > > > and Baen *wants* people to 'pirate' it.  From the website, it's
> > > > because Baen has hard, cold, cash records proving that every
> > > > time they turn loose an electronic copy of a story the sales
> > > > go up, not only for that one but for others by the same author.
> > > > 
> > > > I *so* want Jim Baen to testify before Congress.
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > | The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle 
> to the strong. |
> > > > | Because the slow, feeble old codgers like me cheat.   
>              |
> > > > +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> 
> --------------+
> > > > 
> > 
>