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Re: [dvd-discuss] EFF: Security Researchers Drop Scientific Censo rshipCase
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- From: "Michael A Rolenz" <Michael.A.Rolenz(at)aero.org>
- Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:24:19 -0800
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Posting from last week attached at the bottom.
In this particular case, the RIAA cannot sue Felton et al because they
have publically stated they will not...that does not apply to anyone else
per se since this is not a court ruling.
Eric Seppanen <eds@reric.net>
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On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:30:32PM -0500, Peter D. Junger wrote:
> : > >San Francisco - Citing assurances from the government, the
> : They _believed_ them !??!?
>
> It's not so much a matter of believing them as estopping them.
Can someone clarify exactly how estoppel works in this case? Do RIAA's
informal assurances provide a solid legal defense for the next academic
who wants to publish RIAA's dirty secrets?
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"Michael A Rolenz" <Michael.A.Rolenz@aero.org>
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Estoppel: A rule of evidence whereby a person is barred from denying the
truth of a fact that has already been settled -Also denying ones previous
actions or words.
Essentually, your previous actions or statements or settlements cannot be
repudiated. The best example is where there is a minor breach of contract
and because it is minor, the other party continues with the contract. At
the conclusion, the party that suffered the breach cannot sue the other
for a breach of contract because they were aware of the breach and
accepted it. They are estopped from sueing for a breach of contract.
Try a search on estoppel and interetingly enough the same paragraph pops
up EVERYWHERE.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael A Rolenz [mailto:Michael.A.Rolenz@aero.org]
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:56 AM
> To: dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu
> Subject: Re: [dvd-discuss] Good AiboPet Hacker - DMCA story in Sci Am
>
>
> "The DMCA remains the law of the land and what AiboPet does
> breaks it.
> Sony
> retains its right to crack down on AiboPet and others like him, but
> chooses not
> to exercise it, for now."
>
> OK.....how does the doctrine of estoppel apply here?
>
You take the estoppel out of the bottle and take a few
big swigs?
Perhaps you could give a brief description, for the
non-lawspeak-enabled what "the doctrine of estoppel"
is?
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