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Re: [dvd-discuss] Interesting 1st sale-shrinkwrap-EULA-(c)infringementcase
- To: dvd-discuss(at)cyber.law.harvard.edu
- Subject: Re: [dvd-discuss] Interesting 1st sale-shrinkwrap-EULA-(c)infringementcase
- From: Noah silva <nsilva(at)atari-source.com>
- Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:12:46 -0500 (EST)
- In-Reply-To: <200111021559.fA2Fx6A03999@lumbercartel.com>
- Reply-To: dvd-discuss(at)cyber.law.harvard.edu
- Sender: owner-dvd-discuss(at)cyber.law.harvard.edu
>
> I've been curious whether Microsoft's preload EULA is enforcable for similar
> reasons. Their stuff comes preloaded on the hardware, and the EULA claims
> that if you don't agree to the terms you return the bits to the OEM. The
> OEMs insist that it's not their problem, so talk to MS; MS says it's not their
> problem so talk to the OEM. Neither way can you get a refund. So, if there's
> no possibility of a refund -- is there really a contract? Or did I just get some
> copyrighted material (similar to the owner's manual) that was just stuffed
> into the box?
>
> (Also note that those preload EULAs are *extremely* restrictive.)
>
This is an interesting question, because I was considering buying a
"fujitsu lifebook p" laptop. This can come with windows Xp or windows
2000. I don't want windows at all, so when I am actually buying it
(probably in a few months), I am going to ask for it without windows
installed. If they refuse, I will try to return the windows copy. If they
refuse, I will just sell it. I have heard of microsoft and others trying
to stop ebay sales, etc., so it ought to be interesting.
-- noah silva