Re: [dvd-discuss] AVRA sues Warner Home Video

[Noah silva <nsilva(at)atari-source.com>]

Seriously, though.. a strictly movie DVD is (IMO) not a program, it is a
huge encrypted data file.

Of course a DVD can have programs on it too...

Or it can have both (like this one with the virus recently).

Asking if a DVD is a program is asking if a CD is a program.
A Video CD or an Audio CD I would say isn't, just as a CD full of text
files or mpeg movies.
A CD with EXE files, etc., cintains programs (it still isn't a program).

the hairyness comes when.. it's got word docs, but they have macros,
it's got HTML .. with javascript, etc.

 -- noah silva

On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, D. C. Sessions wrote:

> On Thursday 01 November 2001 10:48, you wrote:
> > Can anybody get a copy of TWI's submission? It might be an amusing 
> > exercise to compare and contrast the various stances they have had in the 
> > 2600, the Ca DVDCCA, cases and now this one....at some point some judge 
> > may want to ask TWI - "Look TWI, it can't be and not be so pick what it 
> > is"...if nothing else, I'd love to read the legalese that argues that a 
> > DVD really is a program!
> 
> Actually, the real fun is when you use their own argument, near as
> possible verbatim.  If they aren't on the ball, they won't recognize it
> and you'll have the fun of countering their rebuttal with the fact that
> it was their own.  The Court is bound to appreciate the irony.
> 
> > "Baerwulf" <baerwulf@echidna.id.au>
> > Sent by: owner-dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu
> > 10/31/01 09:20 PM
> > Please respond to dvd-discuss
> > 
> >  
> >         To:     <dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu>
> >         cc: 
> >         Subject:        [dvd-discuss] AVRA sues Warner Home Video
> > 
> > 
> > Related to the Felten Case is this one reported in The West Australian 
> > this
> > morning. The Australian Video Retailers Assoc. is suing Warner for
> > threatening to sue rental outlets who rented out the cheaper home versions
> > of DVDs
> > 
> > http://www.thewest.com.au/20011101/news/state/tw-news-state-home-sto30431.ht
> > ml
> > 
> > Australian Judges are known for supporting the little guy, this could be 
> > an
> > interesting case.
> > 
> > The square root of three equals two for large values of three. - found in 
> > a
> > bathroom in the Cornell Physics department
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> | I'm old enough that I don't have to pretend to be grown up.|
> +----------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+
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