Re: [dvd-discuss] More Copy Protection

[Jeme A Brelin <jeme(at)brelin.net>]

On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Noah silva wrote:
> > The CD has SCMS as well.
> 
> This is true (at least sort-of, it has "origional" flags, etc.), but
> even Sony's equipment will let you get digital outs from any CD.

The CD has SCMS if it was recorded on an audio component type CD recorder.

> One frustrating thing here is this:
> 
> I could:
> a.) record my own music and mix it on my PC.
> b.) Write a CD with the music in audio format.
> c.) Copy the CD digitally to an MD.
> d.) Want to copy from the MD (Say I lost the origional on the computer)
> and 
> e.) I can't, because SCMS will assume the CD was a copy-righted origional
> (and makes no provision for me owning the copyright), and marks the MD as
> uncopyable.

Right.  And that's the exact problem with SCMS... it assumes all copies
are made from copyrighted originals (or originals to which the copyist
does not hold the copyright).

> (of course nevermind I wouldn't want the stream from the MD, and most
> MD decks don't have digital out).

MD decks USED TO all have digital out.  This really only changed when
computers got digital inputs and MP3 became popular.

All of my MD equipment has digital output.

> > I don't think there's much of a future in the "internet cafe", though I'd
> > love to start one with Sun Microsystems Sunrays.  Cheap and cool.
> 
> Interesting - Why not?  The one I go to in NY is enormously popular.  
> All sorts of visiters and tourists stop in there and use the PCs.

Well, for tourist towns, I can understand it, I guess.  But most towns
don't have that level of tourist activity.

However, it would be cheap and easy, as I said, to run Sunrays or X-terms
for the public.

> BTW I have a sun "javastation" (which is similar to the Ray).

The Sunray is cooler.  I remember the javastation.  They were fascinating,
but the Sunray, in my opinion, totally perfected the concept.

Anyway, yeah... MDs are not popular in the US because the RIAA has spent
two decades trying to convince the public that there's no reason to make
copies and, after all, it's illegal no matter when, why, or how you do it.

It's a lie, but many have swallowed it.
J.
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