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Re: [dvd-discuss] Microsoft Reader encryption broken too
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- Subject: Re: [dvd-discuss] Microsoft Reader encryption broken too
- From: Michael.A.Rolenz(at)aero.org
- Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:02:51 -0700
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My apologies for replying to my own reply....but the way around the LOC's
desire to allow for archivist circumvention is actually quite simple. All
they have to do is claim that
1. Version 2.0 readers won't read version 1.0
2. Version 2.0 format contains "SIGNIFICANT" parts of version 1.0
"technology".
3. Circumventing version 1.0 means that you are circumventing significant
parts of version 2.0 that will lead to its compromise
4. Therefore the DMCA applies prohibiting you from circumventing version
1.0
OR another way is
To simply wait until a new version of the OS doesn't support backwards
compatibility. Apple has used this several times I believe. Windoze2000
doesn't support DOS either I think.
Michael.A.Rolenz@aero.org
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I'd have to check since it's been months since I read the original
comments. I believe the LOC argued that was a reason but did not
explicitly state that the general public should be allowed the excemption
only the selected archivists. I believe I took exception to the notion
that allowing archivists should be allowed to have the tools that the
public could not. This is a horrible notion.
mickey <mickeym@mindspring.com>
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Michael.A.Rolenz@aero.org wrote:
> The article mentions the "REB1100, a dedicated reading device
manufactured
> by RCA" and this raises a question that none of the "Digital Rights
> Management" advocates want to address. What happens to you ebook when
> Adobe says "That's ebook format 1.0. We don't support that format
> anylonger? Or we don't support the reader anylonger on YOUR antiquated
HP
Isn't that one of the exemptions that the LOC came up with (obsolete,
malfunction, etc)?
But, where would the recovery tools come from if the development of them
were
banned?
>
> palmtip computer....or your Windows98 platform......" I've had enough of
> this nonsense dealing with multimate, Chi-writer, Word95, BLOATUS NOTUS
> email "databases" AND recently the Earthlink email client that
corrrupted
> SOMETHING and now won't read ANYTHING (Oh all the email I had there is
> still in the directory. Five minutes with a hex viewer showed me I'm not
> dealing with anything sophisticated...). That's one question the
"Digital
> Rights Management" goo-roos aren't addressing. After First sale I have
an
> unevokable right to view what I purchased.
>
> The danger that they also don't address is how to maintain a permanent
> store of knowledge. The Romans were incredible engineers. Roads,
> aqueducts, structures are still around or even in use but they couldn't
> pass that knowledge on because of a lack of widespread distribution,
> production, and lots of mishaps. GIven what the "Digital Rights
> Management" advocate, I can believe the electronic equivalent will
occure
> <Can you tell that I read Hilton's Lost Horizon as a child?>
>
> Eric Eldred <eldred@eldritchpress.org>
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> 08/30/01 07:42 PM
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>
> Wall Street Journal today reports that Technology Review
> has a story by Wade Rousch that the encryption scheme
> for Microsoft Reader eBooks has been broken. No details.
> See http://www.technologyreview.com/web/roush/roush083001.asp
>
> So much for the theory that the breaking of Adobe encryption
> for eBooks would cause publishers to turn to the Microsoft
> alternative.
>
> Of course, Microsoft's eBooks have not been very popular
> when locked up because so far readers have been unable to
> use the locked-up books on Microsoft CE appliances, only
> on PCs. They have been promising to emit a new version
> of Reader for a long time now. Likely this little news
> item, plus the other attacks by privacy advocates on
> Microsoft Passport, will hold them back even longer.
> Since nobody can be sure if the locks are sound unless
> the scheme is submitted to public scrutiny by experts,
> the mess the DMCA creates is immensely risky for all.
>
> Eldritch Press has a couple of books freed from Microsoft
> Reader locks, at
> http://www.eldritchpress.org:8080/rl/bigtown.html
> http://www.eldritchpress.org:8080/wwone/threes.html
>
> There are probably 20,000 free books now online without
> such locks. Read them instead of the antibooks that
> are more expensive than paperbacks.
>
> The ridiculous DMCA won't permit revealing how the
> encryption can be circumvented, but authors ought to be
> aware now that the locks are useless and even harmful
> to readers. When will publishers realize they have a
> can of worms in their hand?