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		<title>140.247.250.74 at 23:59, 19 March 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;I think the doc is good. My comments are much smaller scale than &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Wendy&amp;#039;s. (Thank you for the larger scale, Wendy.)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;My main concern is that my own particular hobbyhorse has not been &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;sufficiently ridden. Yeehaw! I personally would like to see some &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;mention of the social effect of anonymity in addition to the effect &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;on &amp;quot;democratic discourse, consumer protection, and &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;anti-corruption.&amp;quot; How does anonymity affect the way in which folks &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;play with their selves (yes, I know it&amp;#039;s an unfortunate turn of &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;phrase) on line? How integral has it been in how discourse and &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;social relations form at myspace, secondlife, slashdot, usenet, etc.?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yes.  It would be useful to make one goal the enumeration of realms &lt;br /&gt;
in which anonymity is valued (personal, social, cultural, political, &lt;br /&gt;
economic, religious, etc.), and give examples of how it serves in &lt;br /&gt;
those instances.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, during a recent Wikipedia browsing on Jehovah&amp;#039;s &lt;br /&gt;
Witnesses (curious about their concentration in Brooklyn Heights), I &lt;br /&gt;
was reminded of their religious conviction that authorship and other &lt;br /&gt;
expressive activity should be anonymous because only God should be &lt;br /&gt;
named.  That&amp;#039;s why they&amp;#039;ve been plaintiffs in major anonymity cases.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;I like the discussion of the danger of concentration in practice &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;despite decentralization in theory. Along the same lines, I worry &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;about whether the widespread availability of ID in the &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;infrastructure will lead merchants et al. to demand ID where &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;previously they did not, so the practical situation will be that &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;you can remain anonymous...if you&amp;#039;re willing to be a cultural hermit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Absolutely.  This reminds me more and more of connections to trusted &lt;br /&gt;
computing, where it won&amp;#039;t be mandatory to run a &amp;quot;trusted&amp;quot; operating &lt;br /&gt;
system, but those who don&amp;#039;t won&amp;#039;t get access to any of the books and &lt;br /&gt;
movies released exclusively online (when that hypothetical world &lt;br /&gt;
comes).  Social and market pressures, and the collective action &lt;br /&gt;
problems making it difficult for the public to protest with one &lt;br /&gt;
voice, give the corporate and government actors a stronger say.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Economically, anonymity can be a way to fight price discrimination; &lt;br /&gt;
but without widespread anonymity, the anonymous user might always end &lt;br /&gt;
up paying the highest price, while the one who fits the lowest price &lt;br /&gt;
profile will tend to give up more information than he/she wants.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yet anonymity is useful to businesses to hide their research from &lt;br /&gt;
competitors.  Some use Tor to avoid leaving online research trails &lt;br /&gt;
that could tip off competitors or market analysts, as well as to &lt;br /&gt;
browse competitors&amp;#039; websites without getting misleadingly customized &lt;br /&gt;
versions.  &amp;quot;It looks as though you&amp;#039;re visiting Amazon from BN, would &lt;br /&gt;
you like to buy &amp;#039;How Businesses Fail?&amp;#039;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;The doc might also make more of the that pseudonymity may provide a &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;practical alternative to ID in many instances. You mention it, but &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;I actually think the anonymity &amp;lt;-&amp;gt; ID continuum isn&amp;#039;t a &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;continuum...it&amp;#039;s a triangle, with pseudonymity as a vertex. Not &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;only is pseudonymity not a point on the line between anon and ID, &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;it&amp;#039;s of equal weight. IMO. So, I&amp;#039;d like to see it built up a bit in the doc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The recent Pew study found 55% of bloggers using pseudonyms, which &lt;br /&gt;
might or might not have been linkable to offline identities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--Wendy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;The &amp;quot;scope&amp;quot; section is the most problematic one, imo. Two issues:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;1. Focusing on gov and business could skew the results. E.g., &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;imagine that there are strong governmental reasons to end anonymity &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;totally. Without considering the effect on online culture, we can&amp;#039;t &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;decide if those reasons should carry the day. So, I&amp;#039;d like to see &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;the context broadened. And, for that reason, I&amp;#039;d like to see some &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;sociology mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;2. In addition, the scope section is the only one that reads as if &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;it knows ahead of time what the results will be. I know (confidence &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;level: 1.0) that&amp;#039;s not what you intend. But it could be read that way.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Finally, my most important and searing comment: Generally, when &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;using proportionally-spaced type, one uses only one space after a period.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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