RE: [dvd-discuss] Hang the RIAA in their own noose.

[Richard Hartman <hartman(at)onetouch.com>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Noah silva [mailto:nsilva@atari-source.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:26 AM
> To: 'dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu'
> Subject: RE: [dvd-discuss] Hang the RIAA in their own noose.
> 
> 
> > > > would have to ask permission.
> > > 
> > > Except that if the web archive is considered public, then you are
> > > knowingly posting to a public place, so I think the times 
> > > copying it is
> > > just taking a public document and distributing it.
> > > 
> > > (and at any rate, I certainly wouldn't post top-secret info 
> > > to this list).
> > > 
> > 
> > The Weekly Reader in San Diego is a newspaper that is 
> > distributed for free.  So you are saying that any other
> > publication can just lift articles from it and reprint
> > them w/o permission because it was free?
> > 
> > Copyright doesn't work that way.
> > 
> 
> There's a big different though.  The paper is "free" financially, but
> probably not copyright wise.  I would be willing to bet they put up
> copyright notices on the paper.
> 
> Your post, published on a mailing list, likely isn't considered
> protected.  By definition, when you post something to the 
> public without
> attaching a copyright notice, you lose protection.  

Not since we signed on to the Berne convention, at least
that is not the way I understood it.

>You know 
> the list is
> available to the public through the web archives.  
>I would say google
> Groups has no problem archiving millions of usenet 
> conversations for this
> very reason.  
> 

Yep.  And anybody can read those web archives.  It's one 
of the normal "doors" into this virtual "club".  Or another
way it is another window that lets you see my -single- message
(if you are considering the virtual object model).  But the
NYT editorial page is not, they would have to make a -copy-
of that message, because it is outside of the normal model
of operation of the virtual location known as "dvd-discuss".




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-Richard M. Hartman
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